FY17 Chief Selection Board

[Guest Kaity-did]

On ‎3‎/‎17‎/‎2016 at 7:17 PM, USAF2USN said:

Absolutely. Shoot me an email at work. My Division officer is a Warrant and prior Army as well.

steven.a.sheffield1@navy.mil

Chief,

would you mind if I e-mailed you my LTB for a quick look over?  I am prior active now SELRES .

 

Thank you!

 

[Guest Kaity-did]

When submitting a LTB electronically, do we need to compile it all into one PDF or is it okay to send it as separate attachments?

 

 

[Guest Kaity-did]

1 hour ago, CPO_Pride247 said:

The preferred way would be all as one attachment. Your cover letter will list all of your enclosures in order so to maintain that order it would be better to do it all in one document. How many items are you sending? Do you not have scanner access? You can send as many things at different times as needed however. The LTB reads:

Sailors may provide new information to the board that is not currently in their Official Military Personnel File (OMPF).  Candidates are authorized to submit more than one LTB, vice waiting until the deadline to submit one all-inclusive LTB.  Although multiple LTBs are authorized, candidates should not duplicate previous LTB information.  Early submission of LTB is recommended.

With that being said you can send individually if you need to. I have always sent as one document. Hope that helps.

Thank you for the input.  I do have a scanner and can make it into one.  I just wanted to be sure that was the preferred way.

 

 

Thank you!

[Guest Kaity-did]

A couple more questions:

1.  Do duplicate evals from E-4 and below not need to be removed?  I spoke to NPC and was told they won't be removed and they don't need to be mentioned on the LTB

2. Is there anything I need to do or mention in my LTB regarding an error memo attached to the back of an eval I got from 2011?  It states there was a forced distribution error and that the reporting senior never fixed it.  NPC said this also does not need to be mentioned in my LTB and there is nothing more that will be done about it.

3. I recently completed the "Chart the Course Facilitator training"  however it has not shown up in NSIPS yet but it is in FLTMPs and my ETJ.  I was already planning to send my training summary but do you think I should also send a copy of my ETJ to show that I just did that training or just leave it out?

 

I wanted to make sure this sounds right to those with more experience. 

 

 

[Guest Kaity-did]

19 minutes ago, CPO_Pride247 said:

1) Every effort should be made to correct your OMPF. Although the board reviews the last 5 years it is still good habit to find and correct deficiencies in your record. Do you think that by mentioning it the board sees that you know what is in your record?

2) Does the letter belong with your EVAL? If it is in conjunction with your EVAL then don't mention it. I am sure the board has seen these kind of letters before. If it doesn't belong, then you should mention it and state what PERS told you regarding getting it removed. This shows that you are in control of your record and you have also taken the steps to contact PERS in order to fix it.

3) Have you used the training and is it documented? Did you get a certificate? If you want the board to see it, then send the certificate, unless you weren't given one. I typically do not send any schools or QUALS unless they are a check in the box for my rate or my career path unless they have been documented on an EVAL. For example, I am at a PRECOM and I received my CMEO designation letter once we went Phase III, but since it isn't I do not have any performance documented as the CMEO I didn't send it to the board.

 

Hope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions.

1. PERS said they won't remove it when I contacted them so I don't know how else to go about getting it fixed.  My instinct is to still mention it in my LTB, as you said to show that I am aware of it.  Should I say that I contacted PERS but the duplicates won't be removed or just that I contacted them about removal and leave it at that?

 

2. The memo is due to a distribution error (6 MPs were given when only 3 should have been). They contacted the reporting senior to fix but it was not fixed. I recieved an EP and the correct number of EPs were given so my ranking wasn't impacted. 

3. I just attended the training last drill weekend and there is no certificate. I haven't utilized it yet but wasn't sure if it was still important to include.  I probably won't include it.

 

thanks for your input!

[Guest SandcrabCTT]

Question for all.... I have several modules of the SEJPME completed.  Is there a way to print certificates for the completed modules to show that the SEJPME is in process of being completed and can be added to the LTB?  I also have several modules of the PPME completed and have printed those certificates up and was going to add to my LTB.  Thanks ahead of time for direction and assistance!

[Guest SandcrabCTT]

8 hours ago, CPO_Pride247 said:

There is no certificate for specific modules. Do you feel you can complete the SEJPME prior to the due date for your LTB? Is your completion documented in your EVALS? Once you complete the SEJPME you will get the certificate immediately unlike the PPME where you have to wait for Naval War College to verify completion. My best advice to you if you want the board to see it is to complete it. It may take some extra time and effort, but in the end you will have what you wanted.

Thanks Chief for the input... I'll submit what I have and work to complete the SEJPME and send another LTB before the deadline.  With that being said, for the follow-up LTB the enclosure number that has the completed SEJPME, is it the last number following the last enclosure from my original LTB or is it enclosure (1) for the follow on LTB?

[Guest SandcrabCTT]

Chief.... AWESOME, thanks for getting back to I much appreciate!  Follow-up LTB with SEJPME as Enclosure (1)!  Thanks again....

[Guest MA_TT]

Hey all, I have a question that I hope someone can shed some light on for me.

My last eval I received the #1 MP for my command, and while I was a little disappointed I didn't get an EP, it showed progression and I had a pretty great write up.

However, I was below summary group average. On top of that, I checked BOL and I was below RSCA too. The previous eval I was below as well, but we had just got a new reporting senior so I was told not to worry about it very much. How badly is this going to hurt me? Am I stuck just waiting 5 years for this evaluation to fall out of view from the board? Any insight would  be appreciated.

[Guest MA_TT]

1 hour ago, CPO_Pride247 said:

Your average should be above both averages. You definitely aren't stuck waiting 5 years for an EVAL to fall off. The key is going to be sustained superior performance and no decline in your EVALS. How have your midterms been the last few years? Have you been told what is expected of you to be an EP Sailor? Have you looked at the requirements on your EVAL for a 5.0? I ask this because it details clearly what you should be doing to be a 5.0 Sailor. I have seen people with Promotable EVALs below the Summary and Reporting Senior average get selected, so as I stated above and @USAF2USN has mentioned in other posts, the key is sustained superior performance. The only thing I can be certain on is you not having to wait 5 years for an EVAL to fall off your record. Take the time to talk to your DLCPO and your DH and find out what they expect from a CPO in your department and strive to be that CPO. If you are working and performing at the level you want to be at then everything else will eventually fall into place. Of course, this isn't an overnight thing and you have to bring some intrinsic motivation to the table and want to do it. If you have any questions or want to talk further, please reach out. Hope this helps.

Chief,

  First, thanks a lot for taking the time to respond to me.

  I have reviewed the requirements for a 5.0 sailor many times. I don't think I meet all those requirements on all the traits at all, after all there is always room for growth, but I also don't think I deserved to be below the average. I wasn't given any reason at my debrief as to why I was ranked below, other than "it just happens sometimes".

  I was at a remote installation, so the command really didn't know who we were so we received no real midterms (we just signed them, scanned them, and returned them) and no counseling. I was told that no new quotas had opened up, so I couldn't move up to the EP. That was it. We also didn't have a khaki representative at the ranking boards, and that didn't help things much either. I know I'm making a bunch of excuses right now, but I don't think that I'm a bad sailor and I believe all these things played a part in my situation. I used "common sense" and did everything I could to earn an EP: college, volunteer work, CFL, earning the LPO slot at my satellite camp, mentoring junior sailors, and as much command involvement as I could manage being 3 hours away from our parent command. 

  Anyways, I'm on leave transferring to my next duty station and plan to take everything I learned from this situation and be the better for it, I guess I was just looking for some reassurance that my career isn't in the toilet now. I think you're right and that I need to make sure I keep my motivation high and focus on the path ahead. Thanks again for responding to my post.

V/r

MA1

[Guest Art Vandelay]

I have to send in a copy of my latest Page 4 with all of my Security related quals. I was doing a record review and noticed that my Page 4 has not been updated in 6 years. I re-enlisted twice since then and all of the quals that I have acquired in those 6 years are not reflected in my evals, the only quals that is shown on my evals were weapons requals and minor things. I have already had my verified NSIPS Page 4 submitted to PERS for inclusion in my OMPF but in the event that it doesn't show up by the deadline I have it ready to go for LTB submission. With that said, could that have been one of the things that hurt my chances for advancement the previous times that I have been up? I was thinking that when my record comes to the board it did not look like I qual'd in anything, when in fact I am qual'd in just about everything.

[Guest MA_TT]

3 hours ago, Art Vandelay said:

I have to send in a copy of my latest Page 4 with all of my Security related quals. I was doing a record review and noticed that my Page 4 has not been updated in 6 years. I re-enlisted twice since then and all of the quals that I have acquired in those 6 years are not reflected in my evals, the only quals that is shown on my evals were weapons requals and minor things. I have already had my verified NSIPS Page 4 submitted to PERS for inclusion in my OMPF but in the event that it doesn't show up by the deadline I have it ready to go for LTB submission. With that said, could that have been one of the things that hurt my chances for advancement the previous times that I have been up? I was thinking that when my record comes to the board it did not look like I qual'd in anything, when in fact I am qual'd in just about everything.

I had a similar issue. All of my qualifications (also security quals) were being listed under local certs and JQR's instead of the PQS's that they were. It ended up being an issue with admin: turns out our junior YN1 didn't know how to list things under the PQS section. I brought copies of my qualifications to show her and we went through and input them one by one. I was able to get them added to my 1070/881 and submitted it in my LTB. 

[Guest Art Vandelay]

I have JPME and PPME, how big of a deal is SEJPME?

[Guest SandcrabCTT]

Morning all.... quick question how long does it take approximately for a certificate of completion of the SEJPME Course I to be entered into a member's training jacket (ESR/PSR), OMPF, and/or ESR?  Thanks to all and for those that got there LTB's into NPC yesterday.... GOOD LUCK!

 

[Guest MA_TT]

I've also got a question about the SEJPME...I completed the one on NKO before it got taken down, but I'm guessing the one everyone is doing now is the course located on JKO? 

[Guest SandcrabCTT]

Yes MA_TT the SEJPME is on JKO and is the most recent/newer course to be completed....

[Guest MA_TT]

22 hours ago, sean said:

Update: so as I thought the MOVSM was a no go since it was all ship board based,  besides what I have done since i have been on shore duty for six months. I just have to hope that what I did at sea will get me there.  Although this is my first time up i really hope its my time already at  the 17 year mark since I had a slow start.  However my first E5 eval was weak at another out of rate command.  I went from a #1P  to #3EP in one cycle out of 33 first classes.  Strong write ups even my P  was above the summary average with a strong write up. August can't come fast enough. 

 

Sorry, but why exactly was the MOVSM denied? I think I'm about half way to mine, so I'd like to know what I'm in store for.

[Guest MNC]

The Admiral at my command just awarded me with my MOVSM. Just in time for submission to the board.

[Guest Art Vandelay]

Navy Com, big deal or no?

[Guest Art Vandelay]

16 hours ago, CPO_Pride247 said:

Awards matter to the board. was it an end of tour or did you receive it during your tour? Typically awards received in the middle of a tour are more valuable, but a COM is a good award. I would say not receiving an end of tour award would be a bigger deal if that makes sense. But good on you.

Thanks, but I also received a "spot" NAM and I am certainly going to include that, but yeah the COM is a EOT.

[Guest USNToy]

I am looking for honest opinions on whether or not to submit the following certificates to the board;

Navy Cool Professional Certifications
  -  Certified in Homeland Security Level 1-5
  -  Sensitive Security Information, Certified
  -  Certified in Disaster Preparedness, CDP-I

U.S. Military Apprenticeship
  -  Patrol Officer I
  -  Office Manager 
  -  Computer Operator 
  -  Security Specialist
  -  Armory Technician

These are all documented in my ETJ/SMART but they are not OMPF documents and these particular courses do not appear on the NAVPERS 1070/886 or NAVPERS 1070/881. Should I send all of these documents in? Should I submit my SMARTs even though that isn't normally recommended? I greatly appreciate any advice or opinion.

[Guest CursedSwabbie]

On 4/28/2016 at 3:38 AM, sean said:

Update: so as I thought the MOVSM was a no go since it was all ship board based,  besides what I have done since i have been on shore duty for six months. I just have to hope that what I did at sea will get me there.  Although this is my first time up i really hope its my time already at  the 17 year mark since I had a slow start.  However my first E5 eval was weak at another out of rate command.  I went from a #1P  to #3EP in one cycle out of 33 first classes.  Strong write ups even my P  was above the summary average with a strong write up. August can't come fast enough. 

 

That seems a bit daft and your chain of command should be all over it! Did you volunteer to do NMCRS or some type of volunteer work? then it should not matter! the MOVSM does not put a mandatory time on it other than 3 yrs vol work. Each command has a final say but it seems to me that you are getting short sticked!

[Guest DeepseaSeabee]

15 hours ago, DeepSea5342 said:

Package officially submitted! It is a huge weight off my shoulders let me tell you that. Now, the three month waiting game...again haha.

 

Agreed. I just sent mine in yesterday. I must have reviewed it and changed it six times before pressing the send button. Good luck to you!  

[Guest DeepseaSeabee]

Looking for opinions on the LTB. All are welcome. I had three unverified awards in my package so I chose to add them in my enclosures. I also added my Associates degree that I received in November. Letter of designation for unlimited diving supervisor, "C" school honor graduate and a career summary sheet. I do think I had too many enclosures. But they were important enough to me for me to add them. Next year I won't have a quarter of what I enclosed this year. Does anyone think letters to the board can be a detractor at times? I could see that being so if you enclose items that are in multiple places already such as OMPF, PSR, and evals.

[Guest MNC]

Is there any specific guidance on what order to submit the enclosures with my LTB? I've been told chronological, and order of importance. Need some advice please.