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**HawkISback**    257
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16 hours ago, kontogsl said:

I made it with two MPs in a row. anything is possible.

Yeah, with my Death Star eval 1of1 MP I didn't think I had a chance. 

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AS1(AW/SW/IW)    8
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On ‎8‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 11:54 AM, HawkISback said:

Was the failure there while you were onboard, if so what did they do to overcome it.  On the 365 peice, was your involvement leading training or attending? Are you sure the board had the opportunity to see that in your record?  

No I learned that, the failure dropped off this year for that person so that is probably why. I actually have a bullet on my eval for 365, it reads exactly like this :

Leader Among Peers. As CPO 365 Phase 1 Boat Team Leader, led 18 FCPO's in the execution of classroom training on naval history and heritage increasing knowledge on CPO history in preparation of CPO Phase II.

 

I am slowly moving on and already started working on my eval and EOT award. Started studying the for exam so I can get my ticket next year.

 

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AS1(AW/SW/IW)    8
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On ‎8‎/‎6‎/‎2017 at 4:48 AM, IS Uno said:

Ok ladies and gents. Unfortunately I received the dreaded "N" as well. I honestly thought I had a pretty good shot of making it considering the amount of ISCs that were made. I "thought" my resume was strong enough to warrant a selection but I was wrong. 

We have roughly 3 months and some change to add to our evals and make them stronger that they are now. What are you guys doing to accomplish this goal? I am currently deployed but will be returning soon and will be on post deployment leave for 30 days. That isn't stopping me from getting some great bragsheet material done while I can. I am currently working on my Non-Resident Training Course (NRTC) Petty officer 1st class, Chief, and BMR. Maybe I should have completed them years ago but they should be good for the education wickets (Completed AA and BA already). And I am looking for more good-to-haves to add.

I finished last half of 2016 year as the departmental LPO (of 32), and am currently the 2nd platoon LPO (of 16). My eval was due to my Chief on the 21st of July but will continue to feed inputs as the deployment rolls on. I went through the progression of P, MP, EP and am hoping to have a ranked EP this next iteration. I will have LPO-12, AA/BA, MOVSM, SEJPME, PPME, BPME, and a COM for deployment award. Unfortunately, since I was deployed, I couldn't attend any CPO365 events but hopefully the board will understand.

I have also enrolled in the US Map program, although there isn't much for the IS rate. I think my goal for next year is to make SOY. That would be awesome. I know it wouldn't count for FY19 Chiefs board, but it would be a big accomplishment. 

What about you guys? I think we'd all love to hear your plans or if you have any gouge to help become more competitive. 

Well I can do you one better, I will just copy and paste some of the stuff I put on my eval this year. Maybe it can give you ideas, but don't run with it, I am in the same boat as you and I didn't get selected yet. But you never know what can help people...

 

SAILOR DRIVEN.  His personal dedication to the professional development and retention of his Sailors fostered a productive working and training environment which resulted in 18 advancements, the selection of one JSOQ, two BJOQ's, 100% divisional EAWS and 13 ESWS qualifications, 27 departmental EIWS qualifications, and three re-enlistments.
-DECKPLATE LEADER.  As Command Duty Section Leader, led 147 FCPO's and 331 Junior Sailors across 11 departments in 236 qualifications and manning of 2,592 watch stations, to safeguard the physical integrity of the ship abroad and homeport.
-LEADER AMONG PEERS.  As CPO 365 Phase 1 Boat Team Leader, led 18 FCPO's in the execution of classroom training on naval history and heritage increasing knowledge on CPO history in preparation of CPO Phase II.

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That is a good idea. Here is what I ended up using for mine.  If anyone wants to use pieces.  I used someone who was SOY last year and was selected this cycle as a template for this writeup. This also was changed ever so slightly as I ran out of room on NavFit so had to change the wording slightly, but this is the meat of what I put.  

 

Petty Officer XX is an absolute SUPERSTAR onboard the XX. He continues to be a model Sailor who infuses the Navy's Core Values to all who cross his path and demonstrates the leadership and foresight to be a stellar Chief TODAY.

-OUTSTANDING DECKPLATE LEADER: As the training coordinator, he led 155 students through their qualification process at XX. Under his direct supervision, he ensured the 59 staff personnel maintained the students on track for qualification dates. Constantly sought out by students for mentoring through both personal and professional issues in their day-to-day experiences.

-SKILLFUL MANAGER: As EWS Over-instruct, assisted in the qualification of 10 sea returnees in initial EWS qualifications.  His willingness to stay and help others has positively influenced the performance of his crew accumulating an extra 150 hours this year. His work ethic and steadfast drive attributed to over 155 qualified Nuclear operators with <1% attrition.

-EXCEPTIONAL WATCHSTANDER: Hand selected as primary EDPO for the Pier Side Extended Maintenance Availability and Containment System Testing, as well as, EWS for complex evolutions such as cooldowns. Volunteers to stand watch during complex evolutions and has yet to meet a challenge he cannot overcome with superior performance and planning.

Petty Officer XX will be a welcome addition to the CPO quarters and has my highest personnel recommendation for advancement. Promote him now!!

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On ‎8‎/‎7‎/‎2017 at 8:40 PM, Presise said:

Its hard to not to be discouraged and every year it gets harder and harder to not to feel slighted.  I am frustrated, as I am sure many others are.  I made 1st class in 5 years as a Yeoman, because frankly, I am smart, I had some great mentors, and I gave a 110%.  That was 12 years ago.  In that time, I gathered numerous awards, been selected Sailor of the Year 2 times, been a LPO for the past 4 commands, achieved a Master Degree, and numerous professional certifications and have always taken the most difficult assignments and collateral duties.  I have great evaluations, and two years ago I volunteered to mobilize to Afghanistan in hopes I would be competitive.  Yes, my rating is tight, but I give everything I have.  I have never been in trouble, and I have no medical issues. Not even a single grey hair at 40.

At my command, I am relied upon for my knowledge and experience.  Officers come to me for guidance, as do Chief's.  I act like a Chief, I feel like a Chief, and every year, I hear the same thing from the Mess, "Oh, you definitely made it." followed by the same admission, "Oh, we will make sure you make it next year."  They are meant to be assuring, but now they just make me angry.

Yes, I know I should be happy for those that are selected, but every year of being passed by, I wonder if I have earned the right to be upset?  I see people in other ratings being selected. People with far less knowledge and experience, I now defer to.  One of my shipmates, who I do like, and is very smart, was a newly promoted 2nd class when I met him, and is now a Chief, while I remain the same rank.   Should this not upset me?  Yes his rating is less competitive than mine, but we are taught, rating does not make the Chief but it seems like it does.

The worst is those who hate the Navy.  I see those being selected who frankly hate their job, and only wanted to make Chief so they could enjoy the perks of not doing the manual labor that I still do.

Its even harder to admit to my achievements.  During an LDO board, I was asked why I should be an Officer when I can't even make Chief?  I honestly had no answer.  I didn't know if I was more angry than ashamed by the question.  For all the things I have to be proud of when I went into that board, that Officer pointed out an undeniable fact.  Do I even deserve to be a Chief?  Is my failure my own burden that I cannot see?  Is it my fault that I am not worthy to put on the anchor?  Is it the system's fault? My wife asks me why I don't have more pride in my service.  I have pride in my job, but I honestly don't know if I can still have pride in my service.

In 2 years I reach HYT and will be forced out of the Navy.  I would gladly serve longer, but I will not get that opportunity.  I pretend it doesn't matter.  I tell myself that I have earned the respect of a Chief, even if I don't wear the anchors, but I know I am not a Chief and everyone who sees me knows I am not, nor would I ever presume I am a Chief when I do not wear the uniform, but then if I have not earned it, then shouldn't I be angry if I am treated as one?

I am proud of what I have done, but having nothing to show for it, will make it all the more difficult to accept those retirement papers.  I have been reading these posts a while now, and I see frustration as well and I also see hopefulness for the following year. I had that too.  There is only a couple more chances for me and then I sadly I have to give up the one thing I love most in my life.  I have to accept the reality that I will probably never be selected, no matter what I do.  This is the hardest part for me and the most frustrating.

I know exactly how you feel man. I just know you feel it more because you been trying longer than me. I have 5 years left to retirement. People say the same things to me. Why didn't he make it?  Junior sailors making it before me, people who don't care to make chief still making it. I did back to back sea duty, have everything the precepts and convening order said. Had the highest advancement rate to chief my rate has ever seen this year and still got the N. I have looked at my record and the only thing I can see is my overlapping evals from when I made first. That was corrected by sending a memo to PERS, its in my actual record. So I don't know what else I need to do. I have MP, EP from this new command I am at, my last command was P, MP, MP. I have seen people make it with back to back Ps and back to back MPs. IMO the selection process is flawed...

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On 8/4/2017 at 9:03 PM, RjIDC8425 said:

Hopefully number 6 will be my lucky number next year. It was by far the worst selection year for me since I happened to be PCSing and had to put everything on hold to wait to find out if I was staying for second phase or not. Now I am in a mad dash to checkout then head out to my next command by mid September. It seems that it's hard to get a good read on what the FTS board is looking for. Yes there are precepts but it doesn't seem to really cover anything but the basics. It seems to boil down to what those board members of the convening year are wanting in potential selectees. With each near year it is always something different, one year it might be collateral duties where another year it might be volunteerism. Each year I have talked with multiple khakis at different ranks, many who stood on boards, and it's always been something different.

This year felt like year. Selected both 2016 SOY at my unit and my ISIC, received an EP, EXW Command Coordinator, prior FCPOA president/active CPO365, IDC and Medical Department Head, awarded a NAM for assisting in and processing 400 service members at ECRC. Service record is tight, completed all required courses like PPME/JPME, have an associate degree and will be completed with my bachelors next year. The chief mess and rest of the command thought for sure I was a shoe in this year but were floored that I did not get selected. Some of them were more pissed off than me..crazy.  My CMC was dumbfounded after seeing the "N" next to my name, didn't really say much afterwards except that a CDB will be held soon but not sure what to recommend to help next year. 

    So I been running through my head on what else I can do. I thought double SOY would be highly regarded but it felt like this year it didn't mean anything for my case. It's funny when people list all these recommendations on what they feel will help out in getting selected but talking with prior selectees, a lot of them didn't have half of the accomplishments. Handful never did PPME/JPME or USMAPS or have big command collaterals or MOVSM. I know numerous FTS khakis who don't hold any NECs or have deployments or any warfare devices. I even been told in the past by a few master chiefs that I don't fit the typical FTS model because I never been to a NOSC or RCC and that might be a factor of not being selected yet...I think it is absurd but...you don't know what the board thinks. It's just feels like it's a matter on time and if your lucky. Not trying to sound disillusioned but it's a difficult after so many years working hard and feeling that all your accomplishments should be culminating to this year being the year...but being past again.

I support all those who get selected and hold no ill will against any of them and wish them the best of luck.  Just frustrated that we are never given any clue on why we didn't make the selection for that year. So here's to another year in the hopes of being selected. For those who didn't get selected, only words of advice I have comes an unexpected source. It might me silly but it's from a kids movie that I watch with my daughter recently and it seems to hold true. A little blue fish quoted, "When life gets you down, you know what you gotta do? Just keep swimming." 

Sorry for the long rant but just needed to vent a bit. Thanks and take care.

I think when people haven't accomplished a lot of the external goals to rate stuff they have strong evaluations.  I didn't, but I had command impact collateral duties for three years on shore duty.  I had SoY for two years at ISIC leve, associates, USMAP, all the PME's 95PT, I got 9 people 9595 without any cost for planning and executing online class enrollment. CPR instructor, regional SAPR VA watch, 365 leader, but these three years offset my first five where I didn't have much direction to success. 

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**HawkISback**    257
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On 8/9/2017 at 10:30 AM, HI_IT said:

Good for you.  I thought I had done the same but I guess not.

It might be a time in service, I was at 18.6.  I also had some street credibility in Afghanistan.  I just don't play well with the regular navy, seems the same in the phase two portion. People still wanna be about themselves and not the team.  I get really frustrated when people go in for the me portion. I am not perfect either, if I was I could figure a way to reach them. 

 

I will be glad once I can get back to the grind after the season.

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PO14Life    17
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What can I do to counteract my NOBs?

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Where they normal periodicity or was a LIMDU or other issue involved? Some in here will say take care of your Sailors and it will work itself out.  However, it's still a point game at the end.  USMAP, command impact performance in collateral duties, school, volunteerism ending with a MOVSM, the PPME, BPME, SEJPME, all help.  At this point the more you do the better, the last two years I had 20 lines of input on my evaluations.  I didn't have my come to Jesus moment until late in the navy, so maybe you don't need as much as me. Just keep fighting, if the NOBs were due to limdu some have said include a statement on your LTB, I can't help much on that because I didn't do it, but your command might be able to. 

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46 minutes ago, HawkISback said:

Where they normal periodicity or was a LIMDU or other issue involved? Some in here will say take care of your Sailors and it will work itself out.  However, it's still a point game at the end.  USMAP, command impact performance in collateral duties, school, volunteerism ending with a MOVSM, the PPME, BPME, SEJPME, all help.  At this point the more you do the better, the last two years I had 20 lines of input on my evaluations.  I didn't have my come to Jesus moment until late in the navy, so maybe you don't need as much as me. Just keep fighting, if the NOBs were due to limdu some have said include a statement on your LTB, I can't help much on that because I didn't do it, but your command might be able to. 

Going on and off LIMDU I received two NOBs. I have my USMAP, Associates, MOVSM, and all my PPME's. I am an AUPC right now, and before I was a SAPR, CFS, and CTT. I have several LPO evals but I am ALPO right now due to the current LPO OTEIPing here. I have involvement in leading CP365/FCPOA training and events on my last few evals. I have mentorship and training on them as well. The one xfer  to limdu eval is a black eye due to the reporting seniors average being well above what they gave me. Though the write up showed how much I did there. I am getting tired of the keep doing what you are doing spiel, and I have a MC going over the eval I am about to submit.

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**HawkISback**    257
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Make sure you have the planning and leading the 365 training events.  Also, your region should have a SAPR VA watchbill try and get on that.  It's doing the right thing, and it helps you out to.  You can't control the past, you can use it as motivation like I did.  But it's done, if I see the same "Chiefs" I would have some words.  I also got CPR instructor and taught my command and region commands.  It's good to practice public speaking with that to. Now try and get the Sailors involved in USMAP and school if you can and try to get a different collateral if you can for next year if you are there. 

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Back to the grind! I felt that I would not be affected if I did not get selected. Yup, I was wrong. It stung badly. No crying though. It's time to work harder for the FY 19-S. :) 

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PO14Life    17
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11 hours ago, Mrs G said:

Back to the grind! I felt that I would not be affected if I did not get selected. Yup, I was wrong. It stung badly. No crying though. It's time to work harder for the FY 19-S. :) 

Yea it's a little rough, but you can bounce back. I had a MC review my record, and now he's going over my eval. So we can aim it to my defficiencies.

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On 8/23/2017 at 8:53 PM, PO14Life said:

Going on and off LIMDU I received two NOBs. I have my USMAP, Associates, MOVSM, and all my PPME's. I am an AUPC right now, and before I was a SAPR, CFS, and CTT. I have several LPO evals but I am ALPO right now due to the current LPO OTEIPing here. I have involvement in leading CP365/FCPOA training and events on my last few evals. I have mentorship and training on them as well. The one xfer  to limdu eval is a black eye due to the reporting seniors average being well above what they gave me. Though the write up showed how much I did there. I am getting tired of the keep doing what you are doing spiel, and I have a MC going over the eval I am about to submit.

The other thing I was told by my current CMC, it is important to keep seeking new challenging collateral duties.

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PO14Life    17
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9 hours ago, HawkISback said:

The other thing I was told by my current CMC, it is important to keep seeking new challenging collateral duties.

Unfortunately I won't be able to get rid of UPC any time soon. My command can't get many suckers to take it. I was going to be CMEO but then my command changed their mind while I was on Det. Can't think of many others I haven't done. Except for DAPA but they just changed recently. I was just put in for SOQ but the other 1st class in my division got it last quarter so I have zero chance of getting it.

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**HawkISback**    257
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You don't have to give the old ones up, see if you can at least add one. If you do command quarters, or for department ones talk to then LCPO about scheduling a  naval heritage brief each time, where all the junior Sailors give a five sentence presentation.  Schedule it like a watchbill and you can be the coordinator.  This is good for them to practice speaking in front of people, and they learn naval heritage and it is a good bullet. 

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