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    FY19 Chief Selection Board

    in Chief Selection Board Forum | Results, Preparation, Records

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, Shellback88 said:

    Anyone hear of this provision? Straight out of the advancement manual. It would seem that the young bucks are fighting two quotas...

    1202. EARLY SELECTEE QUOTA. Department of Defense (DOD) has 
    established the Total Active Federal Military Service (TAFMS) 
    requirement which is to be met prior to a member’s advancement 
    to a given paygrade. TAFMS requirements are as follows: 
     E7 – 11 years 
     E8 – 16 years 
    E9 – 19 years 
    DOD has made provisions for early advancements. An “early” 
    candidate is one who does not meet the TAFMS minimum service 
    requirements. No more than 10 percent of the total number of 
    Sailors in the E7/8/9 paygrades may have less than the 
    prescribed TAFMS. The number of “early” selectee quotas 
    available to the selection board is limited to a percentage of 
    the total selectee quota. CNO (N13) monitors this and informs 
    the board of what percentage can be early selectees. The 
    percentage is an overall board figure, not a quota by rate. 

    I have heard of this provision, but I never looked at it as a reason I never got selected. Sure, you're fighting for a spot in the quotas, and this makes that even harder. All I ever told myself is that there are TONS of things outside of my control, and for that reason, I shouldn't spend a single calorie stressing about it.

    FY19 Chief Selection Board

    in Chief Selection Board Forum | Results, Preparation, Records

    Posted

    16 minutes ago, OJ451 said:

    Seniority!  Time is the most precious of commodities!  I’d rather the sailor that stuck with it and never quit with 18-22 years get paid first before that 6 year Chief that was learning to read during 9/11.  Can’t pay enough for time lost from family and friends.  They will make up for it in the long run but the old salt doesn’t have much time.  Might have had a bad command or luck but kept their head down and stayed in the fight.  Give them something for time lost.

    I agree. And I imagine that  being "pay ranked" higher than someone else would lead to inflated egos and even be in bad taste.

    FY19 Chief Selection Board

    in Chief Selection Board Forum | Results, Preparation, Records

    Posted

    1 hour ago, PS1ME said:

    So if results are released next Thursday, I had leave in for Friday/Saturday because my brother is getting married.  I've now realised that the bad luck force is so strong with me that I have the ability to affect the entire Navy.  Sorry guys lol.

    Although if that's the case it would mean I made it, so...not that bad.

    Coincidence? My brother is getting married on August 11th. My wife and kids are hitting the road (with or without me) on the 8th before sunrise...so I guess she's leaving without me either way. I'll either be staying to buying a short-notice plane ticket to meet up with the family.

    FY19 Chief Selection Board

    in Chief Selection Board Forum | Results, Preparation, Records

    Posted

    22 minutes ago, Tony said:

    📢 So, the latest and most credible rumint is that the results still need to go to JAG for the post board review. We already know on this forum going way back that it has to go through a legal scrub. That is also where Sailors end up being put on hold. That has happened to a few members of this forum.

    Is it an "H" (as opposed to an "S"?) Anyway, that is about a 3-6 day wait but apparently it hasn't happened yet. If this is the case, then there is not an issue but that they are simply behind schedule. And as described to me, that would also mean that members have already been selected.

    :graphics-3d-smileys-985145:

     

    Not doubting you, but what makes it "credible?"

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    FY19 Chief Selection Board

    in Chief Selection Board Forum | Results, Preparation, Records

    Posted

    1 hour ago, TM1/SS said:

    On the a different topic an obviously putting the cart before the horse.... Has anyone else looked up how much one set of every CPO uniform is going to cost.... ( Wife was working and I was drinking with Navy Uniforms pulled up) At a miniumum, no rating badges, insignia, name tapes, yada yada yada..... $1228.40

    That's for the basic level, as well (DSCP, I think).

    I wonder what level 2 (Flying Cross) and the premium (Brooks Brothers) cost.

    FY-19 LDO/CWO Procurement Board

    in Navy Enlisted to Officer Forum | LDO, CWO, Commissioning

    Posted

    3 minutes ago, ADCS*VFA said:

    So here is my "two cents". I would like for everyone who reads this please follow and understand the opinion I have. I will take each of you down memory lane just a little.

    Have you ever been asked by your spouse to stop by the store on your way home? The answer is yes for most of us, if not everyone. While in the supermarket have you ever seen that old, retired CPO/SCPO/MCPO with the retired hat on? Yes! While in the supermarket had s/he ever stopped you asking the genetic question: "Hey Sailor how is my Navy doing?" While answering s/he proceeds to spend countless time telling you a sea story or two. Well, what are most of us thinking? I will tell you: "would this guy please leave me alone so I can get home."  Do you know why the majority of us say This? IT IS BEACUSE NO ONE CARES! Once we retire, no one cares. How many Sailors have retired in your Navy tenure? How many of them do you still call, to see if they are doing well? Not many I assume. So with that being said. Go get yours. Who cares what you do, when you accomplish it, and how. When we all retire the only thing we take home is: 1. A check, 2. A flag, 3. A family who we miss countless things for.  No one cares, so why should you. Do your job! Take care of Sailors, but, most importantly, take care of YOU! DO NOT BE LOYAL TO A RANK THAT WILL NOT BE LOYAL TO YOU WHEN YOUR GONE!

    My two cents. Think about it!

     

    I have a ton of respect for this kind of real and candid response. Gave me a perspective that I never considered. I appreciate that, a lot. 

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    FY-19 LDO/CWO Procurement Board

    in Navy Enlisted to Officer Forum | LDO, CWO, Commissioning

    Posted

    Just now, atypicalET said:

    Things are better for us ETs now, but they were terrible for us WRT advancement my first three or four looks at Chief. It became a challenge and there was no way in hell I wasn’t going to be a Chief before doing anything else. I literally laser focused on Chief because it was hard. Probably worse reasons, but I definitely ignored opportunities along my 9 year tenure as an ET1. I fault you in no way for playing your hand at every opportunity. Good luck, and hit me up if you want record review assistance or mentorship if you have any CPO aspirations.

    My CPO aspirations still exist, I didn't just shove them to the wayside in search of "greener pastures" or anything...SBE 4/4 times and hard work on making sure my record was straight and making actionable decisions to become better and more qualified. I appreciate the offer, and I will definitely take you up on that if/when the time comes. Thank you!

    FY-19 LDO/CWO Procurement Board

    in Navy Enlisted to Officer Forum | LDO, CWO, Commissioning

    Posted

    Just now, atypicalET said:

    I saw multiple versions of this rhetoric back when I was an ET1 contemplating LDO. My buddy went for it and I didn’t, he is now a 618X and I am a Chief.

    My biggest question for you, and this is not intended to incite anger, is this: Why would you care? LDO’s and CWO’s choose their own, and if you are chosen that is all you should care about.

    Do you stand to miss some things? Absolutely! But, you stand to miss an opportunity entirely if you don’t give the decision to those LDO’s and CWO’s... like I did.

    Last thing from me will be this: I wish I would have put my package in years ago.

    Thanks for the response.

    No anger incited at all. In my opinion, each one of us should strive to be successful in whichever way we define "success." Of course, I desire to be successful, and to emulate some of the great Chiefs that I have worked for, but my desired career path aims for a different mess. I personally disagree with the statement I bolded, because even as an LDO (from PO1), I still need to appreciate the adage "ask the Chief," because the Divisional LCPO/LDO DIVO relationship should be cohesive, professional, and laser focused on the success of the Sailors and the mission. I don't think any PO1 SHOULD prove "he can make Chief before going to the Wardroom," because they should already know, understand, and appreciate the purpose and capability of a functioning Chief's mess. Just my two cents.

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    FY-19 LDO/CWO Procurement Board

    in Navy Enlisted to Officer Forum | LDO, CWO, Commissioning

    Posted

    I'm curious what everyone here thinks about this excerpt from a letter posted on another Navy website.

    "Those limited-duty officers and chief warrant officers who were initiated chiefs have my greatest respect. The lessons they learned in the chief's mess they have carried into the wardroom. They train and mentor their newest arrivals and reach out to encourage those who will be successful in moving up. These officers are not just technical leaders and managers; they also are building a stronger Navy by building future leaders. What about those limited-duty officers who bypassed the chief's mess?

    Well, they missed some great training, and I doubt they will ever really understand what it means to be the chief or to hear the phrase, "Ask the chief!" While it isn't official Navy policy, I think a first class petty officer should prove he can make chief before going to the wardroom. It takes more than attending knife and fork school to make a great mustang officer." (emphasis is my own, because I think it will bring the most conversation.)

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