FY17 Chief Selection Board

[Guest LAVESE]

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[Guest]

Congratulations to the Reserve and FTS Selects!

Good luck to my fellow Active Duty First Classes!

[Guest navyordie123]

9 minutes ago, SeaTeaArgh said:

Congratulations to the Reserve and FTS Selects!

Good luck to my fellow Active Duty First Classes!

Thank you for that. Hopefully 3rd time will be a charm, 

[Guest DeepseaSeabee]

I have a question about board packages. I chose to have my enclosures to not be landscaped. For instance I oriented the enclosures just as you read a normal piece of paper in front of you versus the sideways landscaped way of doing it. My thought process was I'd like to make it as easy as possible for a board member to read it if they were looking at a screen. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Good, bad, irrelevant? 

[Guest]

How cool would it be if we could get real life notifications and status updates of our selection/non-selection? Dominos Pizza does it on their online orders, the Navy of 2016 can't step up their game?

"0917cst: MCPO Smith is reviewing your record. 

0919cst: MCPO Smith has finished reviewing your record.

0920cst: N"

[Tony]

1 hour ago, SeaTeaArgh said:

How cool would it be if we could get real life notifications and status updates of our selection/non-selection? Dominos Pizza does it on their online orders, the Navy of 2016 can't step up their game?

"0917cst: MCPO Smith is reviewing your record. 

0919cst: MCPO Smith has finished reviewing your record.

0920cst: N"

I think the Navy selecting our future Chiefs is a little more complicated than making a pizza. 

[Guest USMCDR]

I needed to drop in and let everyone know I got the S this year. Been here since 2011 picking up knowledge and trying to get better every year. Keep charging, keep leading!! Living proof right here you don't have to be anywhere close to perfect!

 

[Guest USMCDR]

Absolutely. Never stop learning!

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Tony said:

I think the Navy selecting our future Chiefs is a little more complicated than making a pizza. 

Of course it is. 

[Tony]

4 minutes ago, CPO_Pride247 said:

And one of the things about the person reviewing your record is the need for anonymity. Think about if MCPO Smith's name was on 600 records and 600 people weren't selected. How many emails or phone call is MCPO Smith going to get. Yes, the board membership is public record, but the person(s) who reviewed a particular record isn't.

And for the record, I really don't want to know which person at Dominoes touched my pizza.

[Guest Sailor#1]

One thing that crosses my mind now... advice to all FTS sailors out there... a NOSC is not always a career killer like they say. I am at my 2nd NOSC in a row now and I really thought I would not get selected due to going to the same platform but it's what you do there, not where you go. When I picked my orders 80% of the billets were NOSCs so when I talked to my detailer he told me the same thing.... and he was right... So go outthere and make a difference! 

LSC (Sel)

[Guest ¡Viva!]

5 hours ago, SeaTeaArgh said:

How cool would it be if we could get real life notifications and status updates of our selection/non-selection? Dominos Pizza does it on their online orders, the Navy of 2016 can't step up their game?

"0917cst: MCPO Smith is reviewing your record. 

0919cst: MCPO Smith has finished reviewing your record.

0920cst: N"

It only took MCPO Smith 3 minutes to review your whole record?

[Guest ¡Viva!]

1 hour ago, Sailor#1 said:

One thing that crosses my mind now... advice to all FTS sailors out there... a NOSC is not always a career killer like they say. I am at my 2nd NOSC in a row now and I really thought I would not get selected due to going to the same platform but it's what you do there, not where you go. When I picked my orders 80% of the billets were NOSCs so when I talked to my detailer he told me the same thing.... and he was right... So go outthere and make a difference! 

LSC (Sel)

This is making me think to go back to AIMD Misawa, Japan.  The only challenge over there is 020 PC.  I was there as a 2nd and then made 1st.  The majority of my time there was 1st.  I really am contemplating about returning to your previous command as the same paygrade.  One MC told us over here that the board might look at that as the 1st class if being comfortable in that duty station, that's why he went back there.  On the precepts, it says the board should not look at that because at times, the Sailors do not have control on where are they going.  At least that's how I understood it.

[LSHARP]

31 minutes ago, ET1IWSW said:

First, take the length of the board, subtract the days for the weekends.      Assume 12 hour workdays. Find total hours, convert to minutes.  Find out how many SBEs there are.   Divide the total # of minutes by the total # of SBEs.  That is how long the board has to look at each individual record.

Example: 

35 days (5 weeks) for the board (just an estimate). Subtract the days in the middle for the weekends. That leaves 29 days.

At 12 hours a day (assumed, could be more or less), that's 348 hours (or 20,880 minutes)  total that board members will be looking at records.

For this example, let's take last year's SBE total: 17,639.

So, 20880 (minutes) / 17639 (total SBE) = 1.18 minutes per record.
This doesn't account for lunch breaks, head calls, coffee breaks, or anything else that might take time.
 

Makes 3 minutes seem like a long time for MCPO Smith to look at someone's whole record.

That math only works if they are looking at one record at a time. They review records in panels so I'm sure more time is dedicated to going through our records. 

[Guest CWO2 RRP 782X]

3 hours ago, ¡Viva! said:

This is making me think to go back to AIMD Misawa, Japan.  The only challenge over there is 020 PC.  I was there as a 2nd and then made 1st.  The majority of my time there was 1st.  I really am contemplating about returning to your previous command as the same paygrade.  One MC told us over here that the board might look at that as the 1st class if being comfortable in that duty station, that's why he went back there.  On the precepts, it says the board should not look at that because at times, the Sailors do not have control on where are they going.  At least that's how I understood it.

My take on duty stations is as long as you have increasing responsibilities, taking on new collateral duties and excelling at them, and developing Sailors, you should be good, regardless of duty station. There are always reasons people stay in a geographical location or go from same platform to same platform. They may have dependent who have exceptional needs that can only be taken care of in that location. 

In short, I agree with your statement. Sailors shouldn't be penalized because of duty station history.

[Tony]

37 minutes ago, ET1IWSW said:

Yeah yeah. @LSHARP squared me away. 

[Guest Admin_warrior]

Hypothetically, if your on PCS leave and you get the S in route to your next duty station, will u do Phase 2 at your current command or next or does it depend on circumstance?

[Guest JQ30]

18 hours ago, SeaTeaArgh said:

How cool would it be if we could get real life notifications and status updates of our selection/non-selection? Dominos Pizza does it on their online orders, the Navy of 2016 can't step up their game?

"0917cst: MCPO Smith is reviewing your record. 

0919cst: MCPO Smith has finished reviewing your record.

0920cst: N"

I would pay for this technology. 

[Tony]

5 hours ago, JQ30 said:

I would pay for this technology. 

I tabulated the cost and man-hours expended and the cost to you is $2,435,763,098,120,324,980,333,129,254.99. And you do get a military discount!

[Guest]

Been doing some math, let's just say I was inspired. 

I averaged the time from board adjournment to release of results for the last decade, well 11 years actually (had to go back one extra year to toss out the Millington flooding fiasco). 16.37 days.

Next I used the same 10 years to count the number of days in what we now call phase II, averaged them, and rounded to the nearest whole week. 6 weeks.

So, August 3rd lines up perfectly on the graph for release AND also hits a bullseye for the 6 week phase II.

[Guest AtsugiNate]

14 hours ago, Admin_warrior said:

Hypothetically, if your on PCS leave and you get the S in route to your next duty station, will u do Phase 2 at your current command or next or does it depend on circumstance?

I PCS'ed from my ship in Japan last May.  I went on to C-School for 2 months, and then while on leave I got the "S". Luckily I was staying with my folks in RI, and they live only 20 minutes from NS Newport. Immediately, I went to check in there with the CMDCM, but she said I could not let me do the Season there since I was not attached to them. She gave me some "nuggets" though to prepare. Lol. I wanted to jump on a plane, but wife's entry VISA to Italy was dated for August 17th with seriously no way of changing it. Family is the most important thing so I showed up 10 days after the results. It was fine. My new brothers and sisters got me up to speed. I will tell you it does suck getting Selected in the middle of a PCS. Lol. Although, it was great at the same time, because within a month I was walking around in khakis. My former life gone. Lol. Also, to answer your question, once you check out from your previous command you are fine and checked out so you can't do it with them. They'd have to check you back in, get an eval, etc.

[Guest AtsugiNate]

5 hours ago, CPO_Pride247 said:

You will do it at your next command. There are plenty of CPO selectees that come into phase II late every year due to PCS. Trust me when I tell you that we (CPOs) are prepared for this and anyone coming in late will still participate and still get a good deal out of Phase II. If you completely miss Phase II due to C school or some other mission requirement, you will do it the following year. REMEMBER, Phase II is now MANDATORY.

Yup. So true. My buddy and I PCS'ed around the same time from our ship in Japan. The funny thing is he got selected as a CS while he was attending CTR A-school since he cross rated. Anyway, immediately he called his Community Manager to request to do the season, and then reenroll in the next class convening. Of course, the answer was no since training is higher priority to BUPERS. Never the less he was still able to do the Season, because his instructor was a CTRC. He missed some class time, but got to everything completed. Crazy. Talk about being busy...

[Guest Sailor#1]

What are some great movies to watch while preparing for phase 2? Or stuff to read?

[Guest navyordie123]

10 minutes ago, DeepSea5342 said:

Happy Fourth of July all!!

Happy Fourth of July to you as well!

[Guest CTN_IDW]

Now that I have had time to digest the news I asked my SEL a MC to sponsor me. He is bright and young MC so I know I chose well. He seemed happy I asked.  My biggest concern is I have a college class right in the middle of phase 2 and it's very important to getting my degree in time. Where do I balance this? I commute 2 hrs each way 5 days a week (I am selres) I leave at 4 am and don't get home until about 6pm. I need this class but I don't want to disappoint on phase 2. I will need weekends to do homework.