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The unusual gathering, and Hegseth’s speech, can teach us a lot about the defense secretary’s leadership style — and why his selection by Trump to run the Pentagon looms as an especially consequential choice. To explore further, Today, Explained co-host Noel King spoke with Kerry Howley, a writer at New York magazine who recently wrote a feature on Hegseth.

Below is an excerpt of their conversation, edited for length and clarity

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