Dogg
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For those of you who may not know, the selection board is now conducted like officers boards. This means every record gets in the tank for briefings. No more score sheets and cutoff score to go to the tank. Just FYI.
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Good luck to everyone awaiting results especially my FTS/SELRES PSs. Post your results here. For those not selected, do not give up. Every dog has its day.
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First car wash is this Saturday!
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Looks like this FY18 FTS/SELRES selectee class will be as lucky as my FY14 class- 3 weeks phase 2. Just saying.
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1 hour ago, USNWOMAN86 said:
No they don't. Not everything you include in your package goes into your OMPF, they will however add a NAM or higher into your OMPF if it is already reflecting in NDAWS. Sounds like the Sailor just reenlisted and a record closeout was done.
Correct. That's why I said "if they qualify"
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12 hours ago, papasmurf said:
soooooooo this is weird, just checking my OMPF and there is a few new DOC's added 7/17/2017
I wonder if that was stuff in relation to the board??
Anyone have any thoughts. there is a awards summary, member data summary, training/ed/qual history
Packages sent to selection boards get uploaded to your ompf if they qualify. That started a couple of years ago.
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2 hours ago, SeaBeeDoc said:
Evidently there were some administrative errors with the FTS board, at least this is the latest intel I received from one of the Chiefs here, thus the reason for the wait.
The only intel I have gotten so far is that the USS Fitzgerald mishap is the cause of the FTS/SELRES results delay. The flags have been extremely involved with it. However, I would be surprised if results don't show up next week. For AD, expect it by Aug 2 or sooner if we hit 100 pages by July 31st.
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13 minutes ago, navyordie123 said:
Well the pages are starting to pick up more and more. We have grown in a lot of pages over the past few days.
Well, it takes a 100 pages for results to be released. Old timers here know that basic fact lol.
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8 hours ago, iamthewalrus016 said:
Looks like you have a lot to me... But I don't know jack. I hope you aren't a Corpsman cause I don't want to compete against that lol
The CO with the 4.35 average could ruin some careers with such a high average. Hard to believe a 4.29 will be below the average.
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8 minutes ago, HI_IT said:
I posted this several pages back but now that there are more people on I'd like to ask again. Looking for honest feedback.
I had a 1 of 1 transfer MP in 2013 but is was above the Reporting Senior’s Cumulative Average. How bad is this? And does being above the average really make a difference in a case like this?
A 1/1 MP typically known as air gap eval could make the board wonder why your CO chose to not award you the EP. This is career ending in Officer fitrep I am told. Not sure how it's treated with enlisted boards especially since your CO still put you above cumulative average. Mixed message to say the least.
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3 hours ago, ITJuan(IW/SW/AW) 009 said:
I'm curious to know how the board sees or grades when it comes to individual summary averages to r/s cumulative averages. I understand they look at the past 5 years (and longer if need be), but to get over that hump and hopefully get that S, do you have to be above or at r/s avg 5 years straight or can you be above or at r/s avg 3 out of the 5 years? I've always been curious. For instance:
- 2013 - at r/s
- 2014 - above r/s (transfer)
- 2014 - below r/s (welcome aboard p)
- 2015 - above r/s
- 2016 - above r/s
Yay or nay?
SSP doesn't necessarily mean you're at or above average on every eval. What they want to see is upward mobility. Being below average on first eval is normal. You are expected to move above average after your second or third year onboard.
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53 minutes ago, Chief Guns said:
Correct. I was a FCPO for 7 years before i made Chief. I never had EP periodic eval. Two transfer EPs. All my periodic's was MP's including a welcome aboard MP. But all of them except for one had a breakout. But if you read my write ups especially the opening and closing statements, you would see why i was selected. And don't underestimate block 41. As a FCPO you want to see CPO and LCPO AT SEA in those blocks. That's huge.
Absolutely, block 41 is just as important. Logically, the write up should match the averages. A CO could lose credibility if they give you a powerful write up but put you below his/her average. A reporting senior that doesn't manage the average well could destroy unintentionally the career of some members. Your average could be 4.29, but still lower than cumulative average, while someone with 3.86 is well above. This could be one of the reasons why a change in the evaluation method is being considered and I agree.
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3 hours ago, METOC said:
Hello everyone,
Long time lurker - first time poster. I was hoping to get some feedback re: my PMA vs. summary group. Bottom line: As of now, I only have one eval (most recent) that is above the CO's average. However, the majority of my E6 evals, I was in a highly selective and arduous special duty assignment. In block 28, it does annotate that members of the command are "extensively pre-screened and among the top performers in the Navy" on these evals. However, as a frocked/junior E6, the command was not willing to allow me to break out as I was not even eligible for CPO at the time. IMO, my block 43s have read well as I have always tried to progress IAW the CPO precept. I've completed my AA, JPME, PPME, USMAP, sustained COMREL, standing member of numerous IW and EXW boards, numerous personal awards including a JCOM, & three combat deployments. My last year of the assignment, I was the div LPO but that was annotated on my goodbye EP (1/1) eval. In the last two years (which I've been CPO-eligible), I received a check-in P but was shortly thereafter promoted to detachment LPO, became the regional CPO365 coordinator and FCPOA President, as well as been SOQ twice in the last 18 months. I finally broke out as the #1 MP this year (12/55). I say all this, not to blast out my brag sheet, but give some idea of where I'm at professionally despite a majority of below sum group avg. E6 evals. In this case, my PSR really makes me nervous -- because looking at that w/o any context, I read as a below-average Sailor. I've talked to several CPOs who have given me answers across the spectrum with no real consensus. However, since there seems to be a ton of experience in this forum, I was hoping that an old salt in the group could provide some advice/guidance as to how the CPO board may look at a Sailor under these circumstances. Thank you in advance.
METOC, it all depends on the competition. If you read my post, I said it is good to be at or above summary group and reporting senior cumulative average MOST of the time; not necessarily all the time. The ultimate factor is the ability to show upward movement in your averages. A "P" eval with an above average tells the board that you are in the game, but just got stuck in timing. Anytime a reporting senior places you at or above his/her average, they are telling the selection board that you are qualified for advancement. The reason I wrote this is because a lot of time, some members wonder why they are not selected even though they have numerous EPs especially 1/1s and transfer EPs. Since you are not competing with any one on a 1/1 or transfer eval, the board will look at where you fall in reporting senior's cumulative average. There's a saying that Evals are written sometimes to please members, but the averages are written to the selection board.It's always a good idea to know your reporting senior' average and what it takes to be at or above. When you check on board or any time you have a new CO, ask them. If you are wondering why a lot of members get selected without a single EP, it's because their averages tell the whole story. I can use myself as an example. When I made Chief, my evals were E5: MP, MP, EP(transfer), E6: MP (frocking ), MP, EP. All my averages were at or above.
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10 hours ago, BOATSNUGGYD said:
FTS BM right here
Good luck Boats. BM is one of the hottest ratings right now across the boards.
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Good luck to all awaiting results. It's been a while but I am back. Thanks Tony for keeping my account. Where are my FTS PSs?
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On 2/25/2017 at 6:57 AM, OSCinthemaking said:
What are some great examples of SSP? My idea of SSP is if you have the opportunity to be in a leadership position take it and run with it. You can be the greatest leader in the world but if it is not documented the board will not see that. I must say I have held WCS, and ALPO. Being in the LPO position onboard a Carrier is a true test of your leadership. I learn something new everyday, and feel that I am already acting in the capacity of the Chief. My current chief is very junior and still trying to come into his own. That goes to show you that not holding leadership positions prior to making chief can make it difficult to lead. I ensure that I am there to support him by stepping in where needed.
One thing that I do not like is both Chiefs and Officers come to me about where my chief lacks. That should be discussed with him to guide him, not the LPO. My Dept Head went as far as to say he wants me to be the Chief, I was a little taken back. However, I did not engage in dragging him in the dirt, I listened and stated that it takes time but he will find his way.
I made First class on shore duty in Sep 2014, my first ranked eval was a P. I had a transfer EP in May 2016. Checked on board in June 2016 my first ranked eval covered a 5 month span, it was a really good write up. I am hoping that this will be time to put on those anchors.
Let me clear this ssp cloud. SSP is determined in your PSR; not the evaluation write up. If you make it in the tank, the panel will look at your averages as compared to your peers or summary group and the reporting senior cumulative average. You are considered a sustained superior performer if your averages are at or above summary group averages and reporting senior cumulative average most of the time. You will not be selected if you are constantly below these averages regardless of how your eval is written. The reporting seniors use their averages to send a clear message to selection boards. In some cases, your average may be lower because the reporting senior wants to reset the average, but this must be mentioned in the evaluation to avoid confusion. A lot of members only care about the EP block especially on 1/1 or transfer eval. If you received an EP but your average is lower than the cumulative average, that's not good at all. That is clear message to the boards that you are not there yet. The bottom line is, SSP does not mean how many quals or degrees you have; rather, it's just how you fall in traffic in terms of averages. I hope this helps clarify this myth.
Disclosure: I have not sat a selection board, but a mentor of mine who has sat numerous boards explained this to when I was applying for LDO.
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Wondering if she got censored after making that projection
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Is bol working so good now that they don't need to take it down to post results. My bol has been unusually faster recently. I have been for clues from bol, but nothing unusual yet.
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No March 1st NAVADMIN has been released so far in message traffic, there's still hope.
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Today looks like a weird day for results. Tomorrow is looking like a real bet.
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52 minutes ago, Rgagnier06 said:
Everyone can now resume hitting refresh on your browsers all day. Good luck!
F5 typically starts at 0900 EST.
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I remember the fy14 result hysteria started like this and went on to March 5. Tomorrow is a possibility, but don't hold your breath. Since the FTS/SELRES E8/9 selection board starts on March 6, I expect results to be out by then so that the records of selectees are shoved aside. I understand selectees have ten days from release of results to decline commission, but it would be make sense to release results before the board convenes. What I can say with 100% certainty is that the results will be out by March 15th.
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I already gave up on today. I don't remember an LDO/CWO release this late in the afternoon, and I am old timer here. I bet even Tony knows that.
FY19 Chief Selection Board
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