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1 hour ago, PO1(IW/FMF) said:

I am still undecided about a career summary. They still have to go verify everything you put on it. What I would love to hear someone put some clarification on is things in block 44 like PPME/SEJPME cert. I hear equally “if it’s in your record, don’t send it” or “send it so it doesn’t get overlooked”.  He mentioned all documents of winning SOQ or JSOQ. Even though it’s on an eval, should I send my cookie cutter LOC that I got for winning JSOQ from 2012? Wish I could actually sit down with someone who has sat a recent board to go through my I love me book and recommend things to send in

I'm beginning to see the career summary like a resume, highlighting what you deem important, i.e. items listed in the convening order (formerly board precept). I've always been told certs are good to submit because a whole page that says Master Training Specialist is easier for old, tired MCPO eyes to see than "qualified MTS" in an eval. As for a JSOQ from 2012, probably not worth sending in.

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PO1Oz

Hey Y'all, long time reader first time poster. Wanted to chime in with some info as well. This is my 8th time going up, and hopefully last. I had the luck to land at a command where the prior CMC had sat on boards and he was able to shed some light on a few things.

First, since career summary page is in the discussion, he mentioned while it's not required and some MC' might frown at it, he said most like it as it paints a picture of the Sailor for them, and they go verify that info.

Secondly, he mentioned 3 NEC's that are highlighted in red on everyone's PSR if they do have them. Forgot the third (sorry) but the first two he said were 9502 (805A) Instructor and Hazmat NEC 9595. I do think the first was RDC. he mentioned that there are milestones to each of those NEC's that they specifically look for if you have them. for instructor he said MTS, so if you have that, he said to send the cert no matter what so it does not get overlooked. His exact words were "if they can't find it, you just sealed your fate for that cycle" .

On hazmat (I asked because I have the NEC) he mentioned that they look in the evals/awards to see what you did with the program. Didn't expand too much on it except "if you did well, you get points".

Now as far as my LTB this year, I am looking at submitting 13 enclosures. I am definitely doing the career summary sheet. They can't deduct points for their personal feelings about an enclosure. I think I have a fair shot this year, but my reasoning for submitting a summary sheet is to paint a complete picture of my career way past the 5 years. I do have accomplishments that I think are worth mentioning.

 

 

 

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PO1(IW/FMF)

So I’m a little ashamed to admit that I finally noticed that my OMPF is missing my first 4 evals. What’s  worse is I only have one of them. And the former command def does not have record of them anymore. But I have my 3 Statements in Lieu of Missing Evaluations typed up and cover letter for the eval I do have and will get those mailed out to PERS today. Any idea how long it takes that stuff to get into the record and show in OMPF?  I don’t want to draw attention to it in my LTB if I don’t have to. 

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YN Uno
7 hours ago, PO1(IW/FMF) said:

So I’m a little ashamed to admit that I finally noticed that my OMPF is missing my first 4 evals. What’s  worse is I only have one of them. And the former command def does not have record of them anymore. But I have my 3 Statements in Lieu of Missing Evaluations typed up and cover letter for the eval I do have and will get those mailed out to PERS today. Any idea how long it takes that stuff to get into the record and show in OMPF?  I don’t want to draw attention to it in my LTB if I don’t have to. 

If mailed, i typically tell folks docs should post to OMPF within 45-60 days from mailing. Now, if you're Admin team has BOL e-Submission access, then they can scan, upload and route electronically to PERS for review and approval. Honestly, not sure what the estimated post time for e-Sub but i assume it's much more efficient. V/R, Elijah

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PO1(IW/FMF)
9 hours ago, YN Uno said:

If mailed, i typically tell folks docs should post to OMPF within 45-60 days from mailing. Now, if you're Admin team has BOL e-Submission access, then they can scan, upload and route electronically to PERS for review and approval. Honestly, not sure what the estimated post time for e-Sub but i assume it's much more efficient. V/R, Elijah

I was told that for evals/eval related documents had to be snail mailed to pers 🤷🏼‍♂️

Submitting the statements and eval with LTB just to make sure. I know they won’t actually read it, but probably be more of a “he found an issue with his record and fixed it. Cool, moving on” thing

 

i actually had a real good talk with my mentor today about how it all just depends on how they take everything because what it comes down to is the confidence vote. SOQ/evals all that jazz comes down to a point system, but CPO selection is a vote of confidence which is completely subjective to each voting individual. Hopefully, me identifying and fixing an issue with my record boosts that confidence 

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PO1(IW/FMF)

Reservist Selection Board Eligibility profile sheets will be posted 1000EST tomorrow.  

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ASC(AW/SW/IW)

Good luck guys on the upcoming board!! If you have any questions or need help with your package, please let me know!!

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IS1

Hello everyone!

A bunch of Master Chiefs were nice enough to put together a Chief's package board review in our area. I thought I would briefly cover some of the items they spoke on to the group before they broke off and met with us individually. A lot of you probably already have this information, but I thought it wouldn't hurt:

-If you are sending anything you are generating yourself, like a Career Summary Letter, it is smart to have your CMC sign it. All the Master Chiefs in the room agreed that it gives greater credibility to said item. "Not that they don't trust you, but they probably trust a fellow Master Chief a little bit more."

-If you have an NJP or PFA failure, you aren't necessarily disqualified. What do the eval write-ups actually say? Is it still a good write-up, are you still an awesome sailor? Does the CO characterize you as an awesome sailor and acknowledge that you made a mistake and were held accountable, but you are still doing great things?

-Pay attention to the LADR or Career Paths on NPC. You may have a sailor that has nothing but EPs across the board for years on end, but doesn't have a single check mark on the LADR section for E-6 to E-7 - that won't look good. You need to have met your career path qualifications and requirements. They also said that it is a myth you need an EP to make Chief. If you are meeting the LADR and Career Path requirements and have good write-ups, you have a chance.

-I asked a question on what the general feeling is among the Master Chiefs about career summary letters. They all pretty much answered that some of the Master Chiefs love them and some of them hate them. Either way, they will still have to verify everything you put on the career summary letter in your record and if you put something on your career summary letter that isn't in your record - it doesn't look good.

-They touched on items to send in your LTB. One Master Chief said when he was going up for Chief, he would be told to send none of the stuff he had prepared for his board - then someone else told him to send select items, then another person said "You don't want to be sitting at home the day after you made it and think 'If I just sent that additional item, would I have made it?'" The point is - he doesn't drive to your house and send your mail for you. it's your mail and you decide what goes. Also crushed the myth of "don't send too much stuff, you'll make the Master Chiefs mad then you definitely won't get selected." That's not true. They have to be there for a set timeframe regardless, just keep in mind the amount of time they are allowed to devote to your record and they also have to read every line item you sent to the tank out loud.

-The last point they made is that Yes every record gets graded and every record gets briefed, but they are held to a timeline of about three records per hour minimum. A lot of the Master Chiefs go much faster, especially as the board progresses. The point being that if your record isn't straight and they have to dig and look for things that you should have in your record, they are wasting time searching for things and there is a lot of opportunity for things to be missed. Once your record is graded and submitted to "the tank" your record is put on a screen and briefed for about 30 seconds to a minute. So you basically get 20-21 minutes at the board. So make sure your record is good to go.

After that the Master Chiefs broke off and met with people one-on-one to go over their records and LTBs. A lot of you probably already know all of this, but I felt it was important to share. Have a great day!

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BOATSNUGGYD

Has anyone seen a list of how many of each rater (fts and selres) that are board eligible?

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PO1(IW/FMF)
6 hours ago, BOATSNUGGYD said:

Has anyone seen a list of how many of each rater (fts and selres) that are board eligible?

@BOATSNUGGYD that should be able to be pulled from NAC. I will look tonight when I go in and post it if it’s there. Has to be access for a .mil domain

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PO1(IW/FMF)

FTS and RC stats by rating

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ITC Harley Rider

Hello all,

just wanted to share a little of what I think helped my get selected. From what I heard career summary letters are good, I personally didn’t submit one. NJPs; I have one, got selected first time up. EP Evals; Don’t have any. I did get #1 MP. So, what do I think got me selected? sustained superior performance and being a sme at my rate. I was enlightened by a MCPO when he compared my evals to some else’s that to me was definitely getting selected but didn’t, straight EP Sailor btw. Like I said, my evals are MPs but written as EPs. One major factor is having 5.0 on Professional Knowledge. It’s a big thing now. You can’t just be the collateral hog and not know your rate. Your evals need to show progression, stay above the COs average and make a climb every eval. Lastly, your ompf needs to be up to date. NO EXCUSES. I spent a lot of time updating it and getting it squared away. Submitting awards as enclosures doesn’t look good. Finally, from 3 MCPOs if you submit a designation letter, I.e DCTT, 3MTT... your evals better show the impact. Who cares if you were the 3MC asst if  block 43 doesn’t have anything about it. Whatever is in block 29 better be explained or highlighted on block 43. Lastly, make sure you are growing professionally, take some college courses or earn certifications. You growing as a person will benefit your shop and the navy. Man, sorry this was so long but I wanted to cover everything. Best of luck to all. One more thing, like mentioned on a previous comment, use the LADR and make sure you hitting those goals, LPO, WCS, rate specific watches. Check all the boxes!!

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