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    Oooo I love this topic. In one breathe, we are preaching that time in service isn't a determinant in being a good sailor. The next is bashing <12 year Chiefs. Highly ironic if you ask me. If you think you having nothing to learn from a person because they have less time in than you, then you are largely mistaken. This is regardless of rank. By assuming you know better than a board of MCPOs, the senior officers chairing the board, the flag that signs off on the selections, the mess that ranked and initiated them, and even the CO who signed their eval to get them there in the first place is pure arrogance. Leadership is the biggest factor for selection, if you don't have it, it doesn't matter how many MOVSMs or JPMEs you have. Most, if not all, Chiefs credit their anchors to their troops and by implying they haven't earned them, degrades every sailor who helped them get there. I was initiated with a 6 1/2 year chief and 19 year chief, both are stellar leaders who earn their anchors everyday.
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    That's not a shipmate, that's a douche. Sadly the world is full of toxic people who try to build themselves up by tearing you down. I'm an 18-year first who's been up for Chief since 2005. And you know what? I'm awesome! I'll be awesome if I make Chief, and I'll be awesome if I don't. It sounds like you've done a great job at being awesome yourself.
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    To change the subject a little I would like to talk about humility. Recently I purchased my gold chevron's with pride. A shipmate who saw me with them said they never want to go "gold" and that by 12 years that you should be a chief. I think it is important to remember this year whether we are selected or not that everyone has a career that is different. If you make it your first time up with less than 12 years I'm happy for you, however it does not make me a bad sailor because I haven't made it. No two careers are alike, please show others respect and dignity as results come out. Others have fought for years for this chance. To the ones that are lucky that never have to know what it's like to be not selected Im happy for you, please stay humble. Take time to celebrate with fellow selects and take time to recognize the disappointment others might be having. It's important to change the culture of thinking that if you're not selected that you're a bad sailor or that you "suck". There's always a need to improve whether are you selected or not. Stay humble stay hungry and most importantly continue doing what you're doing, not to make chief but because you have pride in your work and you want to see other sailors succeeding. Lastly, I take pride in my gold chevron's . I am seasoned and I've been through a lot. My career is unlike any others but I think it's experience that helps build a leader. I love the dynamic and diverse group of people that make up the Navy, and that will one day make up the Chiefs' mess.
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    ahhhhhh feels good... just finished my SEJPME... started on monday finished the last module last night took the test this morning that check in the box is comeplete
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    Another week, and still not the time of prophesy. As it is written in the ancient Chief texts: "Lo did the hopefuls creep from their dens. To navyadvancement.com did they creep. To their Chiefs did they cry out, "Now? Can we have the results now?" But it was not to be. Thus did the hopefuls scurry back to their nests, bearing witness to the eternal sadness of anticipation."
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    It's the attitude like this that will make for a VERY difficult season.
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    Good morning all.. getting ready for the morning 5k run..hope everyone has a productive day
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    Geesh. Give the rank the respect commensurate with it. Give the person the respect they deserve. Who cares if they have an anchor or bars or chevrons or stripes? To me, it doesn't matter if you're an 8 year Chief, a 6 year LT, a 19 year PO1, or a 6 month SN. I will refer to you by your rank and by the level of responsibility expected of your position. I will look at you as a leader because I think you're a leader.
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    Hey Christyl GREAT post! I'm one of those First Classes that just retired two months ago on May 1st (22 years AD/SELRES side of both houses) with my GOLD chevrons, never selected (board eligible 6 times). As you said humility goes a long way and if you were to talk to my sailors in my unit they would let you know who there "go to" was. Good luck to you all those that get the coveted "S" and for those that do not always remain loyal to your subordinates and support your leadership. In all accounts this is what it is all about!
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    I think blueshirts in general are just stressed, if it's not the work getting us worked up enough we are dealing with the "what ifs". I just wanna turn the page, If we can roll out a uniform change in regards to a hair bun in a weeks time how hard is it for CNP to get on Facebook live and post an update saying to effect he had the message for such and such group and plans to release all them Thursday. They just need to throw us a bone.
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    Observation point is all you seem to be taking this personal and you also seem to be downgrading ppls accomplishments like I said before second time up and if I make it I have 10 years in from E1 to now never saw advancement opportunity above 26%. No one is taking away from your service just like you shouldn't take away from someone who did it faster than you. If someone is selected in one way or another they deserved it I saw one year LS sub was at 100% 28 out of 28 guess what all28 didn't make it only 13 these boards do the hard job even if we don't like it
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    I know plenty of people with gold stripes who are Grade A, #1 sailors, but their rates are not making Chiefs. I wear my gold proudly, I came close to losing that privilege once, and it reminds me to behave myself
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    I had a CMC at an old command who put it this way. He asked all FCPO who where up for Chief their first time to raise their hands. Next told all the FCPO who had be up two or more times to raise our hands. He said look around. If you don't have to know the heartache of not being selected good on you but remember most of us out here do and show the respect and be humble. Just because you are not selected your first time or never selected does not mean you are a bad sailor or didn't have what it takes to be a Chief. Sometime our careers don't match the Leader we are. Keep your head up take care of your sailors and yourself. If you let yourself slip how can you take care of sailors so don't forget to do what you need to do as well. Good luck to all.
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    I hope that everyone has a good productive day today, stay positive and remember that we all do this for different reasons weither it be family, country or whatever it maybe. We all know this time of year is rough on the nerves but let's keep our heads up and our sailors motivated.
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    I think I know what papasmurf is trying to say. It gets very frustrating to us First Classes that have been a First for a long time and we are getting close to retirement. I am tired of seeing my airman pick up Chief, Senior Chief, LDO, or Warrant. I have been an LPO consistently over my last three tours. I have my B.S. degree, PPME, all kinds of awards, all kinds of quals. All my people that worked for me, I have done my job pushing them on the quals, education, and etc... And I will continue to train my junior personnel to go further in their careers than I have in mine. Training my people and watching them grow is what makes it all worth it. But it is really, really frustrating when you get a Chief that you seem to giving more training to than receiving training from and your Senior and Master Chief come to you for answers or to get things done and not the Chief. I am sure it is made known in the mess and I don't see it happening. But when you have more "checks in the box" and more leadership listed in your evals than the person that made it you have to ask. I have been told over and over. I don't know. the same thing with why I haven't picked up. Every Master Chief and Senior Chief that has looked at my stuff all have said the same thing that they have no idea why I haven't picked up. When I have talked to those that were board members they have stated that they remember seeing my evals on final selections. But do not know why I didn't get selected. When asked what I need to work on to make me more competitive I have gotten the reply keep doing what you have been doing. It is not a matter of if just a matter of when you get picked up.
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    Well everyone has expressed their views, freedom is great. BUT if people lack leadership skills, or integrity our sailors will see that and they won't respect them. As much as we all want to be respected, and yes our paygrade affords us enough that they will not likely confront you to your face, behind your back is an all together different situation. One of the greatest units of the greatest generation talked about that. Everyone of those guys would follow Major Winters to hell and back, LT Dyke and CPT Sobel not so much. We earn our respect more then what are rank gets us.
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    This post resonates with me! Once by my mentor many years ago. Told me to live by the 5R's to success. Right time, Right place, Right uniform, Right attitude, Ready to work! But their are many other factors that contribute to success. Teaching our sailors day in and day out holding to the most highest standards for them to succeed. When those who you lead succeed you will succeed. I'm like those who learn from mistakes and take action when those mistakes happened. A leader is in my aspect is to make those you lead better and more active in leading those who come after all of all of us. Their will always be some body to take our place in the Navy leadership. Wouldn't you want someone better then you? So as we are all awaiting these results take time to reflect on those we have trained and put countless hours in make our leadership count in making the Navy the greatest Navy in the world!!
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    I think I have learned more from junior Sailors than I have from senior ones. Not saying I don't learn from the senior ones... Easiest way to put it is when I was a brand new PO1 I had a PO3 come to me and say hey I need help passing my next PRT I failed the last one. In my head I thought why is this PO3 coming to me there are like 20 CFL's running around that could help. It was at that point I realized this PO3 just assumed I was a PT stud because I was a PO1. I was not. I was a bare minimum kind of guy... Not because I couldn't PT but because I never cared. A lot of things changed for me after that... and its just one little example of many in which I learned something from a junior Sailor... Not just about myself but in general.
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    But in the end It doesn't even matter
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    I think everyone has valid points, putting a uniform item on, either a rank or time in service does not make them an angel. Otherwise senior people would never be in the monthly court martial list. I see wayyyy too many leaders in there.
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    WTF??!! I had 3M inspections all day today and I come home to this??!! Where the love??!! Hahaha.
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    This is my 8th time being board eligible, I currently am wearing 7 gold stripes, yes I have had a few hiccups along the way and I would be lying if I said it did not bother me a little seeing a Young chief pick up first time around. But I don't hold that against them as they obviously was doing something right. MCPO Brashear said" It is not a sin to fall down, It is a sin to stay down " so I will continue to do want I do, wear my uniform proudly and keep on keeping on until it is my time to leave this crazy canoe club with or without those anchors. I never stop learning something new each season and to me that speaks volumes.
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    Well that escalated quickly
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    I don't think it should be an automatic I can't respect you if you have two red strips just like it shouldn't be an automatic I have all the respect in the world for you because you have gold. We all have earned some form of respect by enlisted and based on who you are you either earn more or lose. This is my second time up and if I make it I'd be at 10 years I've earned my respect and plan to keep earning it if I am selected for anchors.
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    I was specifically addressing red in referance to not being in very long.. if you are Red and rocking 5 stripes, I have respect.. period
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    I know this is kind of irrelevant -- but I want to say thank you to all of you. I"m *just* a Navy wife (a new one at that, we got married 1 Apr), and I'm also an Air Force brat (dad is retired). Never, in all the years of dealing with Champus (well lamenting the woes), Tricare (you know things to bond over LOL), my dad's retirement stuff etc etc have I ever seen so much camaraderie and genuine caring as I have over the last few months in this waiting period for results. I'm in awe. I'm also right there beside you waiting to see if my husband made it!! LOL! Anyway -- I'm also posting to contribute to getting this to 100 pages since that seems to be the magic number or something.
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    Im at 17 yrs and been board eligible every year.. 8 years running
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    18 years as well. Been taking the exam since 2011, but made board only this year and last year.
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    now wait till you get that 4th stripe in gold.. welcome to the real party!
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    I'm at 18 so I feel you!
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    Well said, a perfect example - what would stand out more on a Board - A) Tactical Coxswain Qualified or B) Designated letter as a Tactical Coxswain signed by the CO granting you weapons release authority. Of course the letter, just because you have earned a qualification doesn't mean you are still acting in that role or that a new CO grants you the authority to act in their name
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    Your LTB is things you want to the board to see that is important to you. With that being said, if you get an LOD for your quals, then I would submit that. Reason being is that holds more weight than a mark on an eval because it is the skippers way of saying "I trust this sailor to do this specific job with MY name on the line". Some collaterals on evals get overlooked, unintentionally of course, so if you have a piece an LOD for a specific qual, the board will see it.
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    Just received email from my Command SEL, "As far as the results there are a ton of rumors from this is fallout from the leakage of the E9 results to numerous other things. The real answer is that they are not out yet. This is not a problem for us because we adapt and overcome. " We are still planning for the results on the 27th with trip to GL for uniforms on the 29th. Of course we will adapt and overcome if this goes into August.
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    well this was pointed out to me not all NOSC's are on the same drill sked, but they may release on a friday. i mean clearly this year is odd on results being released.
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    I know for the SEJPME II you have to change your rank to E7 to enroll then after you enroll change it back to E6. I completed that one as well. Any thoughts on how the board would view that? (Changing your rank to enroll and complete the course) I've had mixed points of view from different people I asked.
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    you use an eval because its your last one as an E-6
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    Well said, and completely true.
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    I'm going to have to disagree. We all have a lot to learn and we can all learn from each other. Regardless of paygrade, if you ever feel like "you've made it, and deserve to be there" you are wrong. The only way you get anywhere this high in the Navy is on the backs of your Saiors and your upper chain of command believing in you. If you can stop looking up and start looking down, you can pull your Sailors up to your level and they'll get you to the next. Somebody is looking down the chain and trying to pull you up right now. Good luck to all!
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    We had a BM who came in APG and made Chief in 7 years. Is she a good person, sure, has she earned the rank, to me not really.
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    The amount of info that Chiefs may or may not get depends on a lot of factors- their personal network they may have built, their individual Mess's network , their position and also what Command they may be at - just to name a few.
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    I updated stats originally posted by NDC last year!!! FY-2001, NAVADMIN 198/00 — 08/04/00 — Friday FY-2002, NAVADMIN 197/01 — 08/03/01 — Friday FY-2003, NAVADMIN 238/02 — 08/02/02 — Friday FY-2004, NAVADMIN 218/03 — 08/06/03 — Wednesday FY-2005, NAVADMIN 173/04 — 07/28/04 — Wednesday FY-2006, NAVADMIN 183/05 — 07/28/05 — Thursday FY-2007, NAVADMIN 221/06 — 08/04/06 — Friday FY-2008, NAVADMIN 196/07 — 08/08/07 — Wednesday FY-2009, NAVADMIN 213/08 — 08/01/08 — Friday FY-2010, NAVADMIN 230/09 — 07/31/09 — Friday FY-2011, NAVADMIN 269/10 — 08/11/10 — Wednesday FY-2012, NAVADMIN 233/11 — 08/01/11 — Monday FY-2013, NAVADMIN 232/12 — 07/31/12 — Tuesday FY-2014, NAVADMIN 193/13 — 08/01/13 — Thursday FY-2015, NAVADMIN 178/14 — 08/05/14 — Tuesday FY-2016, NAVADMIN 184/15 — 08/06/15 — Thursday FY-2017, NAVADMIN 173/16 - 08/03/16 - Wednesday Released within the last 4 days of Jul: 23.5% Released within the first 6 days of Aug: 64.7% Released after the 7th day of Aug: 11.7% NAVADMIN Release: Release on a Monday: 5% Release on a Tuesday: 11.7% Release on a Wednesday: 29.4% Release on a Thursday: 17.6% Release on a Friday: 35.2% If Triad release is a pay prior, here is what that would look like: Command received on a Monday (NAVADMIN released Tuesday 2x): 11% Command received on a Tuesday (NAVADMIN released Wednesday 5x): 29.4% Command received on a Wednesday (NAVADMIN released Thursday 3x): 17.6% Command received on a Thursday (NAVADMIN released Friday 6x ): 35.2% Command received on a Friday (NAVADMIN released Monday 1x): 5%
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    We are just a bunch of mushrooms.
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    How come it seems like some SELs are getting info while others are not. You would think it would be across the board. Everyday my Master Chief sees me he says checked bupers nothing yet lol.
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    so another day sitting here glued to the message board. looking forward to some of the post everyone will be putting up as we wait for results to come out.
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