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[NC1 Jay]

I have a couple of CPO package questions that I was hoping to get some advice on:

1. Sailor of the Year: Should I send my actual award as part of my package? It is already explained on my latest NAM that has been scanned into my OMPF, but it is not on my eval because I was selected after November 15th.

2. USMAP Certificates: Should I send all 3 in as part of my package? I already have my College Transcripts showing Bachelor's Degree completion scanned into my OMPF, would adding these 3 certificates make any difference? I ask because everything else is updated, so if I don't submit these, I probably wouldn't even have to submit a package.

3. Qualifications: One of our quals is Departmental Leading Chief Petty Officer, and is a very big deal for a 1st Class to achieve. It is listed on the quals section of my latest eval, but seeing as that is a CPO and above qual, would you also send the cover sheet to ensure that it is seen? I cannot submit a qualication report from NSIPS, because it is listed as a local qualification.

Any advice/words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated! Also, anyone else with questions about package submission, feel free to post. I will update the original post with answers as I get them.

[El Cid]

NC1,

Good afternoon...

1. Yes, awards are skimmed over at best and not usually read in entirety.

2. USMAP, if already on your electronic record then no... If it isn't in your OMPF then yes.

3. Is there a designation letter with this qualification? Sending just a qual cover letter sounds strange, but if this is the only documentation you have then send.

All your awards, evals, and continuity are good?

Do not send a career summary letter dispite people saying they made it the year they did.

Vr,
MMC

[NC1 Jay]

El Cid, on 30 January 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

2. USMAP, if already on your electronic record then no... If it isn't in your OMPF then yes.
3. Is there a designation letter with this qualification? Sending just a qual cover letter sounds strange, but if this is the only documentation you have then send.
All your awards, evals, and continuity are good?
Do not send a career summary letter dispite people saying they made it the year they did.
Vr,
MMC

First of all, I appreciate the response, Chief!
2. USMAP-They aren't eligible to be sent to OMPF, just get put on my SMART. I was told that they wouldn't even be considered because I will receive max education points from the Bachelor's Degree that IS in my OMPF. If they wouldn't add anything at all to my selection process, it's 3 less sheets that I would have to turn in.
3. There isn't a designation letter until I actually assume the duties of as a Departmental LCPO, which won't be until my Chief leaves in July, so I could send in the cover sheet or just hope the "Qual Dep LCPO" entry in the eval gets noticed. I will see if the command will write up something...not sure how that works, but maybe they could make something happen.
All awards, evals, prims, continuity are perfect. Got them all corrected last year.

V/R,
NC1

[mcdoire]

CPO4LIFE, on 03 February 2012 - 08:04 PM, said:

The board will see you had the initiative to complete those USMAP hours. Will come in handy in a tie breaker situation. Competion is tough and the more initiative they see, the better your chances are for selection. My recommendation, if not documented on your eval: send them in. Ultimately, it is your sole decision.... your package. Go with your instinct.

How important is it that the actual certificates for warfare qualifications are in a persons OMPF? Is the fact that it shows up on an eval enough?

[ICC(SW/AW)]

I would send in your USMAP certificates. You are going in front of a selection board, not an automated points based selection. Points are used to grade/ evaluate candidates, but if it's close, that could be a tie breaker. Also, it's important to have your record squared away. If you have anything that's missing you need to submit that as part of your package per BUPERSINST 1430.16F. Best of luck this year.

[NC1 Jay]

CPO4LIFE, on 03 February 2012 - 08:04 PM, said:

The board will see you had the initiative to complete those USMAP hours. Will come in handy in a tie breaker situation. Competion is tough and the more initiative they see, the better your chances are for selection. My recommendation, if not documented on your eval: send them in. Ultimately, it is your sole decision.... your package. Go with your instinct.

I appreciate the input, Chief. I am going to go ahead and put a package together containing my 3 USMAP certs, the citation for being selected as Sailor of the Year, and have admin print my local qualification page showing my Departmental LCPO qualification. So it would be:

1. Sailor of the Year citation
2. Departmental LCPO Qualification
3. USMAP (1)
4. USMAP (2)
5. USMAP (3)

I am tempted to put my actual degree in there, because only the transcripts are listed in the OMPF, but I think that would be too much like a "duplicate document". Thanks again!

[NC1 Jay]

redtab78, on 07 February 2012 - 06:17 PM, said:

ADD YOUR DEGREE!!!

Good to know! Thanks, Chief!

[y2pbiggy]

CPO4LIFE, on 02 February 2012 - 09:01 PM, said:

You will have different answers from different people, so ultimately it is up to you to decide. If you can, seek advice from Master Chiefs in your rating who have actually been on the board as well.

Here are my answers to your questions.

1. No, your NAM is in and it states what you did.

2. If they are not documented on your last eval, send them in.

3. No, it is documented on your eval.

It is your package, you decide what you want to send. Those are just my recommendations/answers to your questions.

1. Send it in, they don't take much time reading awards, and it's not in your eval. They need to see it. If it's not in your OMPF and not on your eval send it. You just don't need to be sending in BS because you know they don't have time and don't want to spend all day looking through your package. SIMPLE and COMPLETE is the way to go.

[AE Chief]

NC1 Jay, on 30 January 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

I have a couple of CPO package questions that I was hoping to get some advice on:

1. Sailor of the Year: Should I send my actual award as part of my package? It is already explained on my latest NAM that has been scanned into my OMPF, but it is not on my eval because I was selected after November 15th.

2. USMAP Certificates: Should I send all 3 in as part of my package? I already have my College Transcripts showing Bachelor's Degree completion scanned into my OMPF, would adding these 3 certificates make any difference? I ask because everything else is updated, so if I don't submit these, I probably wouldn't even have to submit a package.

3. Qualifications: One of our quals is Departmental Leading Chief Petty Officer, and is a very big deal for a 1st Class to achieve. It is listed on the quals section of my latest eval, but seeing as that is a CPO and above qual, would you also send the cover sheet to ensure that it is seen? I cannot submit a qualication report from NSIPS, because it is listed as a local qualification.

Any advice/words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated! Also, anyone else with questions about package submission, feel free to post. I will update the original post with answers as I get them.

1. If you have an additional NAM that is the acutal SOY award, (not to include the previouse NAM), and it is not in your OMPF...send it!
2. Your college transcipt is great....but the USMAPS can be a tie breaker, send it!
3. Your qual should show on your eval, but if you want to put it on a 1070/604 you can. That can go both ways. I have the same situation for SCPO board, and will let the members see the qual on my eval. Whatever makes you feel comfortable.

At the end of the day, anything can be a tie breaker, and you want the board to see it all. Good Luck -AEC

[AE Chief]

NC1 Jay, on 30 January 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

I have a couple of CPO package questions that I was hoping to get some advice on:

1. Sailor of the Year: Should I send my actual award as part of my package? It is already explained on my latest NAM that has been scanned into my OMPF, but it is not on my eval because I was selected after November 15th.

2. USMAP Certificates: Should I send all 3 in as part of my package? I already have my College Transcripts showing Bachelor's Degree completion scanned into my OMPF, would adding these 3 certificates make any difference? I ask because everything else is updated, so if I don't submit these, I probably wouldn't even have to submit a package.

3. Qualifications: One of our quals is Departmental Leading Chief Petty Officer, and is a very big deal for a 1st Class to achieve. It is listed on the quals section of my latest eval, but seeing as that is a CPO and above qual, would you also send the cover sheet to ensure that it is seen? I cannot submit a qualication report from NSIPS, because it is listed as a local qualification.

Any advice/words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated! Also, anyone else with questions about package submission, feel free to post. I will update the original post with answers as I get them.

To add your USMAPS education, look into putting them/it on page four. I have the electronic writtable page four if you need it. Let me know. I use the same deal when I update my PPME/JPME courses.

[DC1 to LDO]

AE Chief, on 09 March 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

To add your USMAPS education, look into putting them/it on page four. I have the electronic writtable page four if you need it. Let me know. I use the same deal when I update my PPME/JPME courses.

Could you let me know where to get that electronic form? I need to add my USMAP stuff

[NC1 Jay]

AE Chief, on 09 March 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

To add your USMAPS education, look into putting them/it on page four. I have the electronic writtable page four if you need it. Let me know. I use the same deal when I update my PPME/JPME courses.

I tried that, but admin told me that page 4s were history, and they now use the printout from NSIPS.

[NC1 Jay]

DC1 to LDO, on 09 March 2012 - 07:14 PM, said:

Could you let me know where to get that electronic form? I need to add my USMAP stuff

I was in the same spot, until I was conducted a CDB and noticed USMAP certs in a sailor's record. I just submitted mine for entry into my OMPF too...who knew?

[AE Chief]

NC1 Jay, on 09 March 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:

I tried that, but admin told me that page 4s were history, and they now use the printout from NSIPS.

I just updated four page 4's in Jaunuary, admin and PSD did not say anything. I even got a confirmation email saying they would update on OMPF...still waiting for them to show, but this is not the first time about submitting NSIPS.

[AE Chief]

****CORRECTION*** The Page 4's are old news. Like NC1 Jay and AO1(AW) sid, use the 1070/881. and 880 from NSIPs

[AE Chief]

*** Here is the exact steps I took to get the 1070/881 into my OMPF. First I verified that this document could be submitted into my OMPF in the BUPERINST 1070.27C this is the document submission guidelines for OMPF instruction. Then I went to into my NSIPs and did the following. On the main screen click on view training, education, and qualifications. Next click on training summary. Now scroll all the way to the bottom of the members information on this screen and click the qualification history button. You will then get something that looks like this

*** The Form can be retrieved by Process Instance 5306027 in the NSIPS Report Manager. (26000,1109)

*** Navigate to NSIPS Report Manager, then select report for the process instance number.

*** Now if you look over to the left pane at the bottom of all those links you will see NSIPS Report manager click into that link.

*** You will then see a line item that has view report out to the right when the yellow view report button is available click it , it sometimes takes a few minutes just keep hitting refresh and it will turn yellow . Next you will have three links click the one that ends in .PDF this is the one you can actually view and print out.

I got this information courtesy of AO1(AW/SW), so he is to thank for this information.

[Former RM]

I was in Iraq for 505 days BOG and got back from Iraq to my commmand around Aug 12th. Once home I took over a month worth of leave time.. I got back to my command and my eval was a NOB . I had some significant achievements since I had been back to my command which was written up in my NOB eval in the short time I was back at my command.

Now will the board still look at my NOB eval or will they just skim past that?

[The Navy IT]

I'm no expert as this is my eighth time up lol...but a little bird told me that if it's NOB or 1 of 1 they will not even waste their time. Oh, and it was more than one little bird with stars upon thars

[Former RM]

I forgot to mention that I am SELRES. I do know our boards are looked upon differently from the AC. Hoping to get some advice from some chiefs on the RC side.

[AE Chief]

There is a really good PDF under the career news tab that discusses reocrd verification. Its gives a step by step process that can only help a person who is SBE!